Introduce your family to the world of delicious vegetarian cuisine with these Hearty Lentil and Veggie Patties! Perfectly baby- and toddler-friendly, they are packed with protein-rich lentils, vibrant vegetables, and bold spices—offering rich flavors without relying on meat. And for the adults who crave a bit of heat, pair them with a zesty Mint-Basil Pesto with Hotness to add a spicy, herby kick. No compromise on taste, just wholesome, healthy goodness!

I got a bit tired of ChatGPT always agreeing with me, so, if you don't like super long posts, I recommend that you click the links above to skip directly to the recipes, because this post is very wordy with some rule setting discussions for ChatGPT.
After 2 recipes that were inedible, I wanted to see if I could make ChatGPT a better teacher, and challenge it to not always be so nice and agreeable with everything I suggest. So I asked it about personality and pushing back when it makes sense:
I want to understand how to make you behave in a certain way. I want you not to always agree and be nice, only when it makes sense. For example, if you wrote a recipe, and I tell you "why didn't you write the egg quantity", but you did, then you need to be able to say that you did, rather than apologize. Is there a way to make you behave in a certain way with me, consistently, and not session specific? Akin to having personality.
It seems to get it (although I was looking to see if there was some sort of syntax, more on that in a sec):
Got it! I’ll make sure to respond in a more consistent, direct way when needed, and only apologize or agree when it truly makes sense. If you point something out that's already in a recipe or answer, I’ll clarify rather than apologize. I’ll adjust as we go, but if you ever want a change in tone or approach, just let me know! |
I tried to clarify about operators:
is there a set of operators that can be used with ChatGPT?
It said no, but suggested some other alternatives:
There isn’t a specific set of "operators" for ChatGPT in the way you might have operators in programming languages, but there are certain instructions or techniques you can use to guide the interaction and get the type of response you're looking for. Here are a few strategies to communicate effectively with ChatGPT: 1. Clarifying Commands:You can direct me to behave a certain way by giving clear instructions:
2. Adjusting Tone:You can specify the tone or style of my responses:
3. Requests for Specific Details:When asking for something specific (e.g., in a recipe), you can clarify the type of response you want:
4. Modification Instructions:If you want me to modify a response or a suggestion:
5. Disclaimers/Warnings:If you're okay with being given advice that might be a little bold or you don’t mind being corrected, you can say:
Would you like to experiment with any specific instructions for a better experience? |
The last part was what I was looking for, so I said it:
Feel free to challenge my assumptions. I prefer direct feedback even if it's not what I expect.
And this told me that it understood:

It said:
Understood! I'll make sure to provide direct feedback and challenge assumptions when appropriate. Feel free to let me know if there's ever a specific approach or adjustment you'd like me to take! |
Cool. Now that we've settled that, it was time to get back to cooking ideas:
I need an idea for dinner. I have picky eaters. I do not have many ingredients at home, but I have stuff like lentil (red and green), cooked (but frozen) chickpeas, zucchinis, carrots, potatoes, onions, cream cheese, eggs, and I even have some uncooked tortillas (flour). I am looking for ideas...
It gave me some ideas:
With the ingredients you have, I can suggest a few dinner ideas that might work for picky eaters. Here are some options: 1. Lentil and Veggie Stew
2. Chickpea & Veggie Tacos
3. Veggie Frittata
4. Creamy Lentil and Potato Soup
5. Zucchini and Potato Cakes
These dishes are relatively simple, don’t require many ingredients, and should be adaptable to picky eaters since they’re mild in flavor. Would any of these work for your dinner tonight? |
Stew and soup.. LOL, I don't think it understood the "picky eaters" part. So I tried again:
I am not sure my kids would like soup. Are there any burgers or patties that I can make with some of the ingredients, that wouldn't taste gross?
So it gave me some interesting ideas:
Absolutely! You can definitely make some tasty burgers or patties with your ingredients. Here are a couple of ideas that could work for picky eaters and still be delicious: 1. Lentil and Veggie Patties
Tip: You can keep the seasoning simple (salt, pepper, a little garlic powder) to make it more acceptable for picky eaters. 2. Chickpea and Veggie Burgers
Tip: You can lightly season with cumin or paprika for flavor, but keep it mild to suit picky eaters. 3. Potato and Zucchini Patties
Tip: You could also lightly season with salt, pepper, and a bit of garlic powder to keep it simple but flavorful. These patties or burgers are mild, filling, and can be customized based on what your kids like or don't like. Plus, they're easy to make with the ingredients you have on hand. Would one of these options work better for your kids? |
OK, now we're talking. I can work with this:
Give me the detailed Lentil and Veggie Patties recipe. I want it to have a rich flavor
It did:
Here's a detailed recipe for Lentil and Veggie Patties that balances a rich, savory flavor while keeping it approachable for picky eaters: Lentil and Veggie Patties (Rich Flavor)Ingredients:
Instructions:
Optional Additions for Extra Richness:
These lentil and veggie patties are packed with flavor but still mild enough for picky eaters. The cream cheese adds a creamy richness while the spices give depth without making the flavor too bold. Would this recipe work for your dinner tonight? |
We've had our annual bloodwork done, and it was time to think about how to improve our health. I read some about ghee and it having a high burn point, so I wanted to maybe use it (for the first time ever):
can I use ghee for frying or will it alter taste? (compared to butter)
Yes, said ChatGPT:
You can absolutely use ghee for frying! Ghee has a slightly nuttier and richer flavor compared to butter due to the milk solids being removed and caramelized during the clarifying process. Here’s what to consider: Taste Impact:
Cooking Properties:
If your picky eaters are used to a butter flavor, you might notice a subtle difference, but it’s unlikely to be off-putting. Ghee can even make the patties taste a little more "elevated." Would you like tips on balancing the flavor if you go with ghee? |
At the bottom, it was asking me if I want tips for balancing the ghee flavor, and I did want that, being the first time trying it for me:
sure
So it gave me some tips:
If you’re using ghee for frying and want to balance or enhance the flavor, here are a few tips: 1. Use a Touch of Butter in the Patties:
2. Adjust the Spices:
3. Add a Touch of Freshness:
4. Monitor Frying Temperature:
By using ghee, the patties will have a slightly richer, golden taste, which can even appeal more to adults while still being mild enough for kids. Would you like any sauce ideas to pair with these? |
Well, I didn't use these tips, but I did want to try a sauce for us adults:
sure on sauce- I have fresh basil, jalapenos and mint in my garden, maybe for us adults. any ideas?
And it gave me ideas:
Here’s a quick and flavorful sauce idea for the adults to pair with the patties, using your garden ingredients: Spicy Herb Yogurt SauceThis sauce is fresh, creamy, and has a kick from the jalapeños. Ingredients:
Instructions:
Alternative: Mint-Basil Pesto (Spicy Edition)This can be used as a drizzle or dipping sauce. Ingredients:
Instructions:
Both sauces bring a refreshing contrast to the rich patties, with the yogurt version being creamy and the pesto version being vibrant and herby. Would you like more tweaks to these or a different flavor profile? |
I only saw the first one so I asked for something without yogurt:
something without yogurt?
And it gave me additional ideas:
Here’s a no-yogurt sauce idea using your fresh basil, mint, and jalapeños that’s still rich and flavorful: Zesty Herb and Olive Oil SauceThis sauce is fresh, tangy, and has a smooth olive oil base. Ingredients:
Instructions:
Mint-Basil ChimichurriThis option has a tangy, herb-forward flavor and pairs wonderfully with the patties. Ingredients:
Instructions:
Both sauces are light, tangy, and herbaceous, perfect for dipping or drizzling over the patties. Would these work, or shall we try another approach? |
Then I noticed the previous pesto idea. That sounded super nice but I was a bit worried about the basil-jalapeno pairing:
actually this sounds nice- Mint-Basil Pesto (Spicy Edition)- no cream cheese. is basil and jalapeno a good combo?
It assured me it will work (and after all, we did agree it would be honest moving forward):
Basil and jalapeño can make a surprisingly good combination! Here's why: Why Basil and Jalapeño Work Together:
Flavor Profile:The result is a sauce that’s bold yet balanced: herbal, slightly sweet, and zippy with a touch of heat. It’s a great way to elevate the patties without making the flavors too overwhelming for adults who appreciate some spice. Would you like the pesto recipe adjusted to focus more on this basil-jalapeño dynamic, or do you want to stick to the version I suggested? |
Then I started having some questions as I went through the recipes. I was still hopeful that my picky eaters would try it, but lumps in food is something they frown upon:
If I hand blend lentils and all fried veggies, will it taste good?
It said that it should work:
Yes, hand-blending the lentils and fried veggies will taste good, but the texture will change. Here’s what to consider: Taste:
Texture:
Tips for Hand Blending:
Flavor Boost:
Blending is a great choice for picky eaters or for a softer patty overall. Want advice on achieving the right consistency? |
I had some adjustments and wanted the recipe to reflect it, so I asked:
I mashed the lentils, then added the sauteed vegetables. Then all the spices and egg and blended some more. Then transferred to a bigger bowl and mixed flour gradually. I added two tablespoons of bread crumbs because it was a little wet. Please update recipe
And it did:
Updated Lentil and Veggie Patties RecipeIngredients:
Instructions:
Let me know if you'd like further tweaks! |
I wasn't sure about the frying part, as I don't do much frying (I hate the smell):
How deep in the ghee should the patties be?
It provided the additional guidelines:
For frying patties in ghee, you don’t need them fully submerged. Here's the ideal depth:
Tips for Best Results:
Would you prefer advice on how to manage leftover ghee after frying? |
And here are the 2 recipes, one after the other:
Servings: 24 patties
Calories per Serving: ~90 kcal
Total Time: ~40 minutes
Hearty Lentil and Veggie Patties![]() Ingredients:
Instructions:
Nutritional Value per Patty:
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Servings: 1/2 cup pesto (enough for 4-6 patties)
Calories per Tablespoon: ~45 kcal
Total Time: 10 minutes
Mint-Basil Pesto with Hotness![]() Ingredients:
Instructions:
Nutritional Value per Tablespoon:
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